Friday, March 27, 2015

The Man Cave Returns!!!!!!

 Despite ESPN 980/Red Zebra pulling The Man Cave almost two weeks ago, the station has announced that it will premier next week after all on Monday morning to compete against The Sports Junkies. This can mean only one thing......


Seriously, this whole story has been a joke and yes, I have to blame Dan Snyder for it. I know the story about the hoax when a fake caller posed as ESPN's President John Skipper and threatened a lawsuit if 980 pulled Mike and Mike for The Man Cave and how this led to the suspension/cancellation of the show. According to the Deadspin article (via the original WaPo article) it was Bruce Allen that discovered the hoax after placing a call to the real Skipper and finding out he never called and never threatened a law suit.

Still.....does this not feel like the drama that has typically come from the Redskins? Over the past 15+ years Snyder has been the principle owner of the Redskins, we've seen a lot of stories like this that involves off the field issues with the media and the Redskins. With Scot McCloughan running the show with football operations, maybe the silly dramas tied to the team will finally end.

I probably won't even listen to The Man Cave on a regular basis. I usually don't listen to sports talk in the morning (for a variety of reasons including either being asleep or working) and if I do it's usually Steve Czaban on Yahoo! sports.

It still feel like a dick move on how 980 pulled the show at the last moment whether the Redskins brass were involved or not. If anything, Bruce Allen and Redskins officials know about being given bad news at the last moment and I would think would want to not be a part of doing something similar.

It was just a few years ago that Roger Goodell (led by Giants owner John Mara and Eagles owner Jeffery Lurie) hit the 'Skins with a 36 million dollar cap penalty the day before the start of free agency for over cap spending in a "uncapped year" (The spirit of the rules and all as John Mara so eloquently derped it out to the media.....). Nobody is a better master of dick moves than the NFL and Goodell.

Editor's Note: Below is the original article I planned on writing but never posted because I am such a slacker. When the news came of The Man Cave coming back to 980, I figured I needed to write a new article which is what you just read above.



I've got a ton of stuff to write about the Redskins. A new GM, new coaches, new players, the draft -stuff  that I should have already written about weeks earlier. But, I've been a bit busy and since I've been doing the blog more on a part-time/hiatus basis. The good news is that you'll be seeing that stuff coming up soon (hopefully).

Before I get to 'Skins news though, I figure I'd throw in my two cents on a ESPN 980 topic that's been making its rounds in the Twitterverse and on DCRTV.com (the site that first broke the news) and even in The Post.

The cancellation of ESPN 980's The Man Cave. Practically a day (or days) before it was due to air in place of national ESPN show Mike and Mike, The Man Cave was pulled with no real explanation despite the station doing publicity of the show on the airwaves and on the ESPN 980 site. The premise of The Man Cave was to counter 106.7's local show The Sports Junkies with two known local entities: comedian/host of Redskins Late Night Chris Paul and Ex-WaPo columnist Jason Reid.

The hope was that there would be a nice counterbalance when it came to the Redskins with Paul being a total homer for the team and Reid being a typical basher of the organization as tends to be the status quo at The Post. So we wouldn't have Redskins Nation (sickening sweet pro-Redskins) or Redskins Showtime when Mike Wise was on the show (*vomits in mouth slightly*).

So would the show have been good? Not sure. I actually liked Reid when he was a beat writer (I actually told him that at the 2010 training camp). But when he became a columnist.....meh. The only thing I remember during his tenure as a columnist was this line:


I like Chris Paul, so who knows......

What has made this such a big story is that ESPN 980 is owned by Dan Snyder. Unless you live under a rock, you know that there has been an ongoing feud between the Redskins brass and WaPo's editors/writers for awhile ever since Synder became the Redskins main owner.

Monday, March 9, 2015

What Should Be The Price For #5 (Eagles Trade)?


(How much is Mariota truly worth to the Eagles? Source: Thearon W. Henderson/Getty Images)
There's been a lot of talk by Redskins fans and the local media about an article written by coffee aficionado and MMQB writer Peter King which suggests that the Eagles will target QB Marcus Mariota (one of Chip Kelly's most successful quarterbacks from his Oregon coaching days) in the 2015 draft and would swap 1st round picks with the Redskins in order to make that move.

King suggests that if the Eagles give the Redskins their 1st and 2nd round picks in 2015 along with their 1st and 4th round picks that the trade would easily be made. However, is that really enough compensation to the Redskins for possibly giving the Eagles their franchise quarterback for the next 10 or more years?

Today, I'm going to look at the math of this potential trades and what the Redskins should be looking for if this move is possible. If you're interested, I did the math of the RGIII trade evaluating the value of the trade each year (2012 version is here) to get a feel and explanation of what I'm doing.

As usual, I analyze these trades using the standard Trade Value Chart, which is used by many/most of the GMs in the league to determine value for picks.

Trading With The Eagles

You have to understand a few things before I can even start breaking down this type of trade. This trade is going to be a bit tricky to determine value and compensation for multiple reasons. The first reason is because of what type of player is being traded. This isn't a move up to get a top tier WR,  (a move the Falcons made in 2011 to get Julio Jones) it's for a quarterback. If Mariota somehow falls to five, there will be some teams looking to get him (who exactly is still an unknown at this point) so, you'd likely expect to see a higher price tag to make this trade possible.

Second, is that the Redskins would be making a trade with a NFC East rival. A trade that could give the Eagles superiority in the division for at least a decade with a franchise quarterback in a quarterback driven league. The Redskins would need to expect significant compensation if they are willing to give the Eagles this type of opportunity.

The Math

The Redskins #5 overall pick is worth 1,700 points according to the TVC

The Eagles #20 overall pick is worth 850 points according to the TVC.

In order for the trade to happen the Eagles would have to give up enough picks to at least equal the 1,700 point value for the #5 spot. Ideally, you want to use this equation to determine each side's value in a trade and to have the end result as close to zero as possible (zero resulting in an equal value trade for both sides).

Here's the typical equation you'd use to value a trade:

Draft Pick(s) received (total TVC points) - Draft Pick(s) Given (total TVC Points) = x (0, + or -  TVC pts)

Peter King's Scenario:

Eagles trade #20 overall - 1st round - (850 points),  #52 overall - 2nd round - (380 points), 2016 1st round* (approximately valued 380 points), 2016 4th round* (approximately 32.2 points)
* Future picks are devalued one round for each year teams have to wait before they can use them.

Total value given = 1642.2 points; End value = + 57.8 points

This is a great trade....... for the Eagles. Despite the Redskins getting three additional players out of this move, the value is not there to make the trade with a divisional rival. A perfect example of trading within the division is with the Donovan McNabb trade in 2010. There is no way the Eagles would have gotten nearly what they did had they traded him to a team outside of the division. The Redskins should expect no less if the Eagles want to trade with them for Mariota.

Chris Cooley Scenario:
Former Redskin/ESPN 980 host Chris Cooley tweeted out this question yesterday to the fans:






















I wouldn't. My reasoning again is that the Redskins aren't getting compensated enough to do the deal. At this point, it's clear that Chip Kelly would rather go in another direction than to start Nick Foles. Maybe the "Mariota to Philly" story is just a smokescreen or a fan/media made rumor, but it sure did seem that Kelly would have rather stuck with Mark Sanchez than Foles in 2014.

So why do the Eagles a favor and take a guy Kelly doesn't want off his hands?

Also, I just don't see a tremendous value in Foles. I don't think he's an ideal fit for Jay Gruden's scheme and I think if the Eagles tried to trade him, they'd only get a 3rd round pick (maybe a 2nd at best) for him on the open market.

My Scenario:
So if I was Scot McCloughan, what would I want from the Eagles to make this trade go down? After doing some number crunching I think this would provide pretty fair compensation that slightly favors the Redskins but is understandable based on the situation.

Eagles trade #20 overall (850 points), #52 overall (380 points), #116 overall - 4th round - (62 points), 2016 1st round pick (approximately 380 points) and a conditional 2016 3rd round pick (62 points).

That totals 1734 points.

I would make the 3rd become a 2nd if Mariota wins RotY, makes the Pro Bowl or if the Eagles win a playoff game.

That would change the overall total to 1842 but, if Mariota is that good, giving up a 2nd in 2016 instead of a 3rd shouldn't be a big deal for Philly. If this deal goes down, the Redskins should get at least 2-3 immediate starters and a total for five good players. Chip Kelly gets his guy and we can find out if a nearly all Oregon team can win at the NFL level as Eagles.

Those are my thoughts on the potential trade. What's yours? Let me know in the comments below and thanks for reading.